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California Supreme Court overturns gay marriage ban
"In a 4-3 decision, the justices rule that people have a fundamental right to marry the person of their choice and that gender restrictions violate the state Constitution's equal protection guarantees." Here is the link: Link
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that's interesting.
all in all, i'm pretty apathetic about the whole gay-marriage debate.
i don't know if that's the right attitude or not, but obviously i don't care.
I figured that's what the court would decide. It is, after all, a civil rights and legal issue.
You know, as righteous of a liberal as I pretended to be for all those years, dying for gay rights and whatnot, I just no longer care either.
I'm not sure what that means. Maybe yay, we got those rotten x-tians? Or yay, we fixed a great injustice in California, America is next and then?
THE WORLD!
But not really. Good for them. I'm more concerned about paying down debt and figuring out what I'm supposed to do with my life. This is very symbolic. I'm more concerned about rice seeds in Myanmar than gay marriage in the United States.
that's good.
I'm straight, and I'm happy for them, that they can finally marry, just like us straight people can.
that's great!
does anyone but those who are gay and want to get married care? I'd probably have to say no
That's quite exciting. :]
(Oh, great, now it's in style to NOT care about gay rights.)
@striemmy - I'm not gay, and I don't want to get married, but I care. A lot. I care because, if something as simple as being married would make people happy, then I want them to be happy. Also, just because you're uninvolved in the issue doesn't mean you have to be so apathetic. Gay people are just that....people. And they deserve the same rights and responsibilities as any other person.
@BeKa28 - Morality is relative. Keep your religion out of the law books.
@SuperEvilPopTart64 - Funny thing is, mores are actually dependent on the culture--technically we decide what is moral. Placing regard for any religion out of the window, gay marriage is now moral in California. To most people, anyway.
It's about time!
@striemmy - I think plenty of non gay people care. I have friends who are gay/lesbian and they deserve the be legally married, just as I am.@DebsWorld - @SuperEvilPopTart64 - Exactly- it's about time!
I'm just wondering how being in a commited, loving relationship could be considered immoral?
figured that would be the outcome
SuperEvilPopTart64- Morality is relative. Keep your religion out of the law books.
If Morality is relative than who decides what the laws are? Let's say, to ME murder is not immoral. who is anyone else to decide that it's illegal?
@SuperEvilPopTart64 - a lot of things would make people happy but there are several things to consider. Happiness is fleeting and laws aren't the easiest thing to change. Likewise, if the happiness of others is so important perhaps something of more significance should be taken to the law books? I'm not saying gay marriage isn't important, I'm saying that perhaps there are more important issues in the world today. Social security? the war? The real ID act? Environmentally friendly cars? How about how the rights of others is being opressed as a result of our war?
@maayana - but why do you care? because it will make them happy? What if the act of being married makes them unhappy? What difference does it make if they're married or not?
I care, not just because I am bi, but because finally California realizes
that minorities have equal rights. :) And it is granting them those
rights. Awesome news!
@BeKa28 - Society does. Through trial and error. We learn from experiences and from history.
Those are two ugly lesbians.
@SuperEvilPopTart64 - here here... (re your comment to BeKa28...
@striemmy - It's not because it makes them happy, it's because it is another (through fairly small) win for justice and goodness. Why not move forward? And besides, those issues you named - why can't you focus on all of those?
But yeah. I agree. I am more worried about victims in Burma, Darfur, China right now than this. It is just something nice to see - some good news.
@BeKa28 - @SuperEvilPopTart64 - Technically our laws are based on religion and marriage is a religious institution of christianity/judaism/islam.
I'm kind of neutral on this issue. It's hard because I want to see gay people happy as I think most of them simply want to live a married life with the person that they love. Most gay people that I know are truly good people. That is they're respectful, generous, etc. But on the other side of the coin, is changing the definition of marriage essential? In other words are those who defined marriage as "between one man and one woman" filled with bigotry. If so, why do 48 states (49 as of yesterday) still define marriage in this way? So in other words I'm torn though I'd lean toward Civil Unions and against gay marriage at this point. From what I understand, civil unions basically allow most if not all of the benefits of being married while not immediately changing the definition of marriage. Just my two cents.
@Tallon5 - Oh, we can, but do you see an entry about any of those things?
And justice? really? sean bell. Good news for you, bad news for those who do not believe as you believe